05 May 2023

Other TfL train changes including Crossrail and Underground lines.

 According to the TfL lines there will be other movements than those already mentioned in the previous article. There we concentrated on putting in some sort of order Overground, with prospective extensions, and DLT trains. Now we concentrate more on Underground and National Rail lines.

Almost all the commuter services are run with electric traction. All London Underground and almost all London Overground services are run on the three rail system - drawing electric current for traction from a third rail. The old Southern Region of British Rail - basically all the services south of the Thames - also uses the third rail for electric traction. These services these days are offered by, mostly, South West Trains, Southern and Southeastern.

North of the Thames most services are electric but using overhead wires for collection of the current. This is true for commuter services out of Paddington, Euston, St.Pancras, Kings Cross, Moorgate, Liverpool St. and Fenchurch St. The exception here are the Chiltern Trains services out of Marylebone. At the moment they are run with diesels so it is not a question of if, but when these lines are electrified as they will be to overhead electric transmission. 

From that if we wish to link commuter services to commuter services, as will be done with Crossrail, then we have to think of compatibility and cost. This brings us to the conclusion of "like with like", as much as possible. Thameslink is the exception since it operates both north and south of the Thames. This is not an ideal solution because the trains which travel to both sides of the river have to be compatible with both systems,third rail and overhead, resulting in more complex and more expensive vehicles.However, a lot can be done with thought.

Crossrail 1 (the Elizabeth Line): This is the first Crossrail set up and working already. It has taken longer than expected to finish and resulted in costing way over the budgeted cost. Not everybody agrees with the London mayor at the time, Boris Johnson, to name the line after the monarch. The reasons are not relevant to this blog why this blogger differs from Boris.

What is relevant is the definition of Crossrail and its services. It was decided that since TfL wanted to control the transport infrastructure within the Greater London conurbation then Crossrail would become a new service of TfL, where ever it went. I want to focus on the services it provides. Nobody would argue that running passenger services from Reading in the west to Shenfield in the East means that it is a line for outer surburban services.

My initial question is if the line will admit on its tracks non-Crossrail services. GWR (Great Western) runs the rail services into Paddington. At the other end Greater Anglia runs the rail services into Liverpool Street. Will these companies be allowed to run their services  from Paddington to Shenfield (in the case of GWR) or from Liverpool Street to Reading (in the case of Greater Anglia)? If not, why not? Is competition to be permitted and promoted, or not?

a)Even before the line was finished there was speculation as to when the extension to Abbey Wood would be extended more to Ebbsfleet. Here it could connect to Eurostar services, when they are reinstated at this station, together with the Southeastern Javelin services between St. Pancras and the Kent coastal towns.

b)The eastern section stops at Shenfield but there is no reason for Crossrail not to continue on the Greater Anglia lines to Southend Victoria and Southminster. Was it not the case that the original line was to go west as far as Slough which was later extended to Reading? A similar extension is justifiable eastwards, is it not? 

c)From Paddington the line goes westwards towards Ealing Broadway before continuing on its journey. From this station there is a spur to Greenford operated by GWR.Here this spur could be incorporated into Crossrail 1 and then from Greenford extended to West Ruislip. This extension would substitute that section of the Underground Central Line which runs from Greenford to West Ruislip.

Crossrail 2:  If we take it as a logical progression from policies applied north of the Thames regarding electrification of rail services, then it is safe to say that when electrification comes to the Chiltern Lines from Marylebone station then they will be converted to overhead operation. 

From that we can associate the Chiltern Line commuter services from Marylebone with  existing commuter services to Amersham and Aylesbury Vale Parkway plus those to High Wycombe and Aylesbury, plus the London Northwestern services to Tring and Milton Keynes along the WCML. These run roughly parallel so are complementary. The line to High Wycombe runs through West Ruislip thus providing the outer London connection to Crossrail 3.

At the other end of central London we have the Essex Thameside line operated by C2C from Fenchurch St. The London Northwestern and the C2C services (and it is supposed the Chiltern services eventually) are operated by overhead electrical supply. Join the two sides with a tunnel from Fenchurch St. - Cannon St. - Blackfriars - Aldwych - Tottenham Court Rd.- New Cavendish St./Portland Place(new station) - Marylebone (and Baker St.). From Marylebone one branch would continue to South Hampstead and West Hampstead to continue on the Chiltern Lines to the north west, while a second branch would connect Marylebone with Queens Park and on to the WCML out to Watford Junction etc.

The lines at both ends would need no special conversion as they are overhead wires. The inevitable electrification of the Chiltern lines would be brought forward. The tunneling from Fenchurch St. to Marylebone and onwards would come to about 13.3kms. which compares quite favourably with Crossrail 1 where the tunneling has come to be about 21kms. in each direction.

Are the services compatible? If we look at the periods of 06.30 to 10.00hrs for those services into the London termini, and from the termini between 16.30 and 20.00hrs. we can see that C2C runs 48/49 trains into and out of Fenchurch St. while London Northwestern (into / out of Euston) plus Chiltern Trains (into / out of Marylebone) run in total the same number of services - 48/49. That makes for a rate of 14 tph at each end. However, if we understand that joining the lines would mean there were no platform dwelling time at the termini we can see that a capacity increase is built into the system ready to be exploited.

As a result a valuable piece of real estate at Fenchurch St. would be freed up for development to help pay for the scheme.

Crossrail 3: This is the "often talked about","absolutely necessary", "impossible", "never advanced beyond speculation","game changing", Since everthing is organised on a "hub and spoke" way then anything which breaks molds is interesting.

Here we have a Cross London line through the Northern suburbs starting in Uxbridge in the West to go East for 50 kms.. It connects many of the Underground and National Rail Lines in their outer reaches.......

Uxbridge - Ickenham - Ruislip - Rayners Lane - West Harrow - Harrow & Wealdstone - Canon´s Park - Edgeware - Mill Hill Broadway - Mill Hill East - Finchley Central - Highgate . Harringey Green Lanes - South Tottenham - Walthamstow Queens Road - Leyton Midland Road - Barking - Barking Riverside.

 


Underground  Lines:

-Metropolitan Line:a) This line extends into the north-west suburbs of the conurbation. Agreement was reached, some time ago, between TfL and the local authority,about changing the destination of the Watford branch to Watford Junction. The distance is short, using part of previous infrastructure to provide better connectivity. Everything was agreed upon except for the financing of the project. Thus it has remained in Limbo since then. Perhaps the Government can offer to pay for the work in exchange for concessions elsewhere. All it needs is political will. 

b) With the introduction of Crossrail 2 the need to connect these outer London suburbs with the City is reduced when it can fill in gaps elsewhere in the system. A direct connection between Paddington and/or Marylebone and Victoria stations has been mooted in the past. This could continue to south of the Thames to connect to other potential TfL lines.

The simplest connection would continue the Metropolitan lines southwards from Baker Street/Marylebone to...Marble Arch - Hyde Park Corner - Victoria - Pimlico - Kennington - Elephant & Castle - Loughborough Junction -Tulse Hill - Crystal Palace -  ................

i)  - Crystal Palace - West Croydon - Sutton - Epsom Downs  

ii) - Crystal Palace - Norwood Junction - East Croydon - Purley - Tattenham Corner 

iii) - Crystal Palace - Norwood Junction - East Croydon - Purley - Caterham.

c) The existing Metropolitan Line services along the Circle Line to Aldgate from Baker Street, would continue to help maintain the frequency of services on that route. However, there would be no services that used Baker Street as a terminus.


-Central Line: a) In the west this line will be curtailed from West Ruislip to Greenford from where it will start. This is to accomodate the Crossrail 1 branch from Ealing Broadway up to Greenford being able to extend to West Ruislip and so connect with Crossrail 2. Commuters over that section do not lose anything but gain better connections and speed. b) Services on the Hinault loop( entering from both  northwards through Roding Valley or southwards through Wanstead, see the introduction of Overground services from the southern loop between Sutton and Wimbledon previously operated by Thameslink. Demand would dictate if Central Line services were to continue on this loop even if only during rush-hour periods. 

-Hammersmith and City Line:At present this line "dies" at Hammersmith when it could continue on to provide more service to more people. Extending the line from Hammersmith southwards to Barnes would serve more commuters and provide an extremely good link to travellers on the South West Trains network through that station, giving them an alternative connection to lines north of the Thames.

-Northern Line: This line recently opened an extension from Kennington to Battersea Power Station. Since it was completed there has been a lot of speculation on continuing the line to Clapham Junction. Such an extension would provide greater connectivity for passengers travelling through the Junction.

-Waterloo & City Line:This line has served as a non-stop connection between Waterloo and Bank, transporting commuters on South West Trains into the City. Now since a connecting service is needed between the "Sutton Loop" and the "Hinault Loop" from south to north of the Thames then this line serves that purpose. There have always been many criticisms of such an endeavour, mostly to discourage the change. However,all the work on the Rail/Tube/Overground/DLT lines is focused towards improved connectivity and greater capacity. This work on the Waterloo and City line increases both tremendously (longer trains, walk-through carriages, increased frequency of trains).

-Bakerloo Line: This line runs from Harrow and Wealdstone in the north on the WCML, through Baker St. and the West End to Waterloo and on to Elephant & Castle. It has been a candidate for extension south of the Thames for many years and is now being talked about again.

a)The option to run the line northwards will be dictated by demand and train paths.However, the line exists to run services into Watford Junction alongside Overground services if so wished.

b)South of the river options exist to run services either along the Old Kent Road, or down through Camberwell and Peckham Rye, and then on to Lewisham. The line would then run southwards through Lower Sydenham taking over the Hayes branch of National Rail services. Another branch would run south of Lewisham towards Grove park and then take the Bromley North branch.

 c) There also exists the possibility of running services south from Lewisham, through Grove Park and on to Orpington, if there were demand for the services. 

 

 

 

National Rail: Some of these modifications of Underground  (and Overground) services can be seen quite clearly and need no more explanation. However, there is one more service which means a change of operator. Before, we mentioned that trains should run like with like. For this reason those trains which run both north and south of the Thames on both the overhead pickup system and the third rail electric system should be under the responsibility of one operator which is Thameslink.

For that reason the line which is run by Southern from Hemel Hempstead - Kensington Olympia - Gatwick Airport should be passed over to Thameslink.

Making these connections betweem tghe various commuter lines across London means there is no longer any need for platform space at several terminals. This would lead to train paths becoming available for more regional and inter-city trains into the capital. Where they are really needed is for others to look at.




11 April 2023

Numbers or Names for the Overground and DLR?

The last week of March saw this topic come into the news. That is not surprising since the Mayor of London,Sadiq Khan, had the naming of the Overground lines in his election manifesto. 

I have found only three sites that talk about it. Jago Hazzard runs a regular series on You Tube called "Tales from the Tube", which looks at different aspects of the London Underground/Overground and DLR. With regard to this topic, naming Overground lines, he came up with a report called, "Naming the Overground Lines, and why £4 million actually isn't that much."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKBkb3H3Abk&t=83s  

Another site, "Business Traveller", had a news piece called, "TfL to rename six lines on the Overground."

https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2023/03/30/tfl-to-rename-six-lines-on-the-overground/ 

On the Forum page of that website a topic was introduced called,  "Name or number Overground lines?" The point this blogger wants to make is that I am in favour of numbering the lines not naming them

The website, "London Reconnections" provides an extensive and interesting analysis of the question of naming Overground lines. The problem lies in the statement at the very end of the blogg when the author states, "As Mayor Khan stated that the new Overground lines will be named, not lettered or numbered, we shall not brook any numbering or lettering suggestions in the comments."  This suggests that the rest of the, very good, blogg cannot be taken as seriously as intended.Does it mean that what the Mayor says is unmovable or incontestable? Cannot he make a grave mistake? At least look at the arguments in favour of alternatives.   

 "The Flowering of Overground lines & colours – How Soon is Now?"

https://www.londonreconnections.com/2023/overground-lines-colours-unbound-how-soon-is-now/ 

The experiences of metro and surburban lines all over the globe should surely be taken into consideration. There are innumerable cities which use numbers why should London be necessarily different?

With regard to the Underground, we have reached the stage where there are many different lines and colours so any more would need shades of colours, not separate colours and different names. The TfL map is already rather cluttered so more colours and named lines would only make it more cluttered without giving us the benefit of differentiating between Underground and Overground lines. The Overground lines have their informal names, and without doubt some people would continue to use them. However, we have to remember that the greater use of the maps identifying the lines is not made by the regular commuter but the occasional traveller, the tourist, and others who do not know the system, or that part of the system where they wish to go.

Other lines have been earmarked for transference to Overground. Basically what TfL wants are for all above ground rail lines within the London boundary to be converted to Overground lines. This means that these extensions should be taken into consideration. 

Examples of this mean that the loop lines, through Hounslow and Kingston out of Waterloo will be incorporated as will the loop lines out of London Bridge through Greenwich, Sidcup and Lewisham. The only part missing is the link from Waterloo to London Bridge, not an extensive distance to tunnel. It also frees up platforms at both termini for other regional or long distance services. 


Other South West train services into Waterloo from Shepperton, Hampton Court, and Chessington South could join up with the lines out of Liverpool Street station to Chingford, Enfield Town and Cheshunt. These need a connecting tunnel between the two termini but will free up more platforms at the termini for other services. These would need a cross London tunnel connection. What better than use and substitute the existing "Waterloo and City Line"? This line already runs under Blackfriars before reaching Bank and it is no great effort to extend it to Liverpool Street. A lot could be saved off costs this way and thus make the line more useful.

The Wimbledon / Sutton / Mitcham Junction,loop run by Thameslink at present, is a prime candidate to be passed over to Overground. It is entirely inside the London area so should be passed over.The most likely connection north of the Thames would be that part of the Underground Central Line to the Hinault loop.

The Southern Railway lines out of Victoria and London Bridge that go to Epsom Downs, Tattenham Corner and Caterham would also be incorporated into the Underground.

This is the present Overground map as presented by TfL.

 (c)TfL

 https://content.tfl.gov.uk/london-overground-network-map.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-34,1216 

Overground Line Numbers

O1) ......Waterloo - Clapham Junction - Hounslow - Twickenham - Clapham Junction - Waterloo......

O2) ......Waterloo - Clapham Junction - Twickenham - Hounslow - Clapham Junction - Waterloo......

O3) ......Waterloo - Clapham Junction - Twickenham - Kingston - Clapham Junction - Waterloo......

O4) ......Waterloo - Clapham Junction - Kingston - Twickenham - Clapham Junction - Waterloo......

O1/O2/O3/O4) ......Waterloo - London Bridge...... (This section would be of new construction. The common part of the route for lines 01 to 04 is in reality from Clapham Junction - Waterloo - London Bridge - New Cross - Lewishham either out or return)

O1) ......London Bridge - Greenwich - Belvedere - Welling - Lewisham - New Cross - London Bridge......

O2)......London Bridge - New Cross - Lewisham - Welling - Belvedere - Greenwich - London Bridge......

O3)......London Bridge - New Cross - Lewisham - Welling - Bexley - Hither Green - Lewisham - New Cross - London Bridge......

O4)......London Bridge - New Cross - Lewisham - Hither Green - Bexley - Welling - Lewisham - New Cross - London Bridge......


O5) Shepperton - Kingston - Raynes Park - Clapham Junction - Waterloo......

O6) Hampton Court - Raynes Park - Clapham Junction - Waterloo......

O7) Chessington South - Raynes Park - Clapham Junction - Waterloo......

O5/O6/O7) ......Waterloo - Blackfriars - Bank - Liverpool Street......(The fully shared track would run from Raynes Park - Clapham Junction - Waterloo - Liverpool St. - Hackney Downs).

O5) ......Liverpool Street - Hackney Downs - Walthamstow Central - Chingford

O6) ......Liverpool Street - Hackney Downs - Edmonton Green - Enfield Town

O7) ......Liverpool Street - Hackney Downs - Edmonton Green - Cheshunt

 

O8) ...Sutton - Mitcham Junction - Tulse Hill - Elephant & Castle - City Thameslink - Kings Cross - Finsbury Park - Manor House - Stamford Hill - Leyton Midland Road - Leytonstone -Woodford - Roding Valley - Hinault -  Newbury Park - Wanstead - Leytonstone - Stamford Hill- Finsbury Park - City Thameslink -  Tulse Hill - Tooting - Wimbledon - Sutton ...

O9)...Sutton - Wimbledon - Tooting -Tulse Hill - Elephant & Castle - City Thameslink - Kings Cross - Finsbury Park - Manor House - Stamford Hill - Leyton Midland Road - Leytonstone - Wanstead - Newbury Park - Hinault - Roding Valley - Woodford - Leytonstone - Stamford Hill - Finsbury Park - City Thameslink - Tulse Hill - Mitchum Junction - Sutton ... 

O13) Romford - Upminster

O14) Richmond - Willesden Junction - Gospel Oak - Highbury & Islington - Stratford

O15) Clapham Junction - Willesden Junction - Gospel Oak - Highbury & Islington - Stratford

O16) Gospel Oak - Barking Riverside

O17) Watford Junction - South Hampsted - Camden Road - Highbury & Islington - Canada Water - New Cross

O18) Watford Junction - South Hampsted - Camden Road - Highbury & Islington - Canada Water - Sydenham - Crystal Palace

O19) Watford Junction - South Hampsted - Camden Road - Highbury & Islington - Canada Water - Sydenham - West Croydon

O20) Highbury & Islington - Canada Water - Queens Road Peckham - Clapham Junction

 
While we are looking at the Overground let us also look at the Docklands Light Railway (DLR). It is difficult to make any provision when we do not know any concrete plans for this network. The only thing I have clear is that it will be extended,.....but to where and when I do not know.

This is the present DLR map as presented by TfL.

(c) TfL

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/dlr-route-map.pdf

DLR Line Numbers

DLR1) Bank - Canary Wharf - Lewisham

DLR2) Stratford - Canary Wharf - Lewisham 

DLR3) Bank - Canning Town - Woolwich Arsenal

DLR4) Stratford International - Canning Town - Woolwich Arsenal

DLR5) Tower Gateway - Canning Town - Beckton 

 

Maps of two cities, among many, which use numbers for their Metro and/or surburban lines

Munich showing: U-Bahn, S-Bahn and Regional railways

 

C:/Users/usuario/Downloads/Munich%20-MVV_Netzplan_S_U_R.pdf 


Madrid showing: Metro, light railway/tram and surburban rail services 


https://www.crtm.es/media/319331/serie_2b_turistico_plano_es.pdf


These are plans for the Overground and DLT services for the foreseeable future. However, the article does not take into consideration known or proposed projects for the other train services in and into London, as well as some tidying up that could/should be done. These will be looked at in the next article.